Oh boy, have I been there. Just recently, my daughter’s absolute favorite companion, a rather well-loved (and, let’s be honest, well-slobbered-on) rainbow unicorn named Sparklehoof, ended up taking an unfortunate dive into a puddle of spilled juice. The sight of Sparklehoof, once vibrant and soft, now sticky and blotchy, sent a wave of panic through my little one. And, if I’m being perfectly frank, a small tremor of dread through me too. It wasn’t just dirt; it was *Sparklehoof’s* dirt, imbued with years of cuddles and childhood memories. What was I supposed to do with this **dirty stuffed animal** without ruining it forever?

To deal with **dirty stuffed animals**, you generally need to assess their material, age, and overall condition to determine the safest and most effective cleaning method. This can range from simple spot cleaning and gentle hand washing for more delicate items, to a careful machine wash for durable plush toys, or even professional cleaning for cherished, antique, or particularly intricate pieces. The goal is always to restore their cleanliness and freshness while preserving their integrity and, of course, their inherent snuggle factor.

Taking care of a grimy plush pal isn’t just about making it look nice again; it’s about hygiene, longevity, and sometimes, preserving a piece of your family’s heart. These aren’t just toys; they’re confidantes, comforters, and silent witnesses to countless childhood adventures. So, let’s dive deep into the world of stuffed animal restoration, shall we? You’ll be amazed at what a little know-how can accomplish.

Understanding Your Plush Pal: The Pre-Cleaning Assessment

Before you even think about grabbing a sponge or tossing that beloved buddy into the washing machine, a thorough assessment is absolutely crucial. Trust me on this one; a little preparation now can save you a whole lot of heartache later. This isn’t just about cleaning; it’s about intelligent care.

“What’s It Made Of, Anyway?” – Material Matters

Every stuffed animal is unique, and its construction dictates how it should (or shouldn’t) be cleaned. Peeking at the materials is your first detective step.

  • Fabric Type: Most modern stuffed animals are made from synthetic materials like polyester plush, fleece, or velour, which are generally quite durable. However, you might encounter others made from cotton, wool, mohair, or even silk. Natural fibers, especially wool and silk, are far more delicate and prone to shrinking or damage with harsh washing. Mohair, often found on older teddy bears, requires specialized care.
  • Fillings: What’s inside matters just as much as what’s outside. Most common is polyester fiberfill, which is resilient and usually washable. Some older or more substantial toys might have foam chunks, which can disintegrate in a washing machine, or pellets/beans (often in the base to help them sit up). If those pellets are made of organic materials like rice or beans, they’ll turn into a mushy disaster if wet! Even plastic pellets can sometimes poke through seams if agitated too vigorously.
  • Embellishments and Accessories: Take a good look at the eyes, nose, and any attached clothing or decorations. Are the eyes sewn on tightly, or are they plastic “safety eyes” that are generally secure? Are there glued-on features, sequins, glitter, or delicate embroidery? Glued parts can dissolve or detach, and delicate embellishments can snag or tear in a machine wash. Any battery packs, sound boxes, or internal mechanisms are also a huge red flag for water immersion.

“Is It a Keeper or a Goner?” – Condition Check

The current state of your stuffed animal will also guide your cleaning choices.

  • Tears and Loose Parts: Inspect for any rips, loose seams, or dangling limbs. A washing machine can turn a small tear into a gaping wound. If you find any, a quick mend with a needle and thread before washing can prevent further damage.
  • Type of Stains: Is it just general dust and grime, or is there a specific, gnarly stain? Food spills, dirt, ink, or mysterious sticky patches each might require different pre-treatment strategies. Some stains might be so deeply set or of such a nature that attempting to clean them at home could do more harm than good.
  • Age and Sentimental Value: Is this a brand-new toy or a cherished heirloom from Grandma? Older toys, especially those that have seen a lot of love, might have weaker seams and fabrics. High sentimental value often warrants a more cautious approach, leaning towards gentler methods or even professional cleaning. My daughter’s Sparklehoof, for example, definitely fell into the high sentimental value category, making me extra careful!

“Tag, You’re It!” – Decoding the Care Label

Believe it or not, that little tag stitched onto your stuffed animal isn’t just for pricing or brand identification. It’s often your primary guide to proper care. Always, always check the care label first. It’s like a secret message from the toy’s manufacturer, telling you exactly how to treat it.

Look for symbols that indicate washing temperature, machine washability, tumble drying instructions, and whether bleaching is allowed. If the tag explicitly says “surface wash only,” or has a crossed-out washing machine symbol, then that’s your cue to avoid full immersion at all costs. Sometimes, especially with older toys, the tag might be missing or illegible. In such cases, it’s always best to err on the side of caution and opt for the gentlest cleaning method.

The Go-To Cleaning Methods: From Quick Fixes to Deep Dives

Once you’ve done your homework and assessed your plush pal, it’s time to choose your cleaning weapon. From just a bit of dusting to a full-on spa day, we’ve got you covered.

Method 1: The “Dust Bunny Banisher” – Surface Cleaning

For lightly soiled stuffed animals that primarily suffer from dust, pet hair, or general surface grime, a quick surface clean can be a real game-changer. This is often my first step for toys that just need a refresh, not a full bath.

What you’ll need:

  • A soft-bristled brush (a clean, soft toothbrush or pet brush can work wonders)
  • A lint roller or packing tape
  • A vacuum cleaner with a brush attachment or upholstery tool (and low suction!)

How to do it:

  1. Brush Away Loose Debris: Gently brush the entire surface of the stuffed animal. This helps to dislodge dust, crumbs, and matted fur.
  2. Lint Roll or Tape Up: Use a lint roller or wrap some packing tape around your hand (sticky side out) to pick up any stubborn pet hair or lint.
  3. Vacuum Power (Carefully!): Attach a brush tool to your vacuum cleaner. Set the vacuum to its lowest suction setting. Gently go over the surface of the stuffed animal. For very delicate areas or small toys, you can even place a piece of old pantyhose or mesh over the vacuum nozzle to prevent accidentally sucking up loose parts. This method is incredibly effective for removing dust mites and allergens from the surface.

This method is fantastic for routine maintenance and for those stuffed animals that absolutely cannot get wet due to internal mechanisms or very delicate materials.

Method 2: “Oops! A Spill!” – Spot Cleaning for the Win

Spot cleaning is your go-to strategy for isolated stains or for stuffed animals that are “surface wash only” according to their care tag. This is how I tackled Sparklehoof’s juice stain, focusing just on the affected areas.

What you’ll need:

  • Two clean, white cloths or sponges
  • A small bowl of lukewarm water
  • A very mild detergent (like baby shampoo, a tiny drop of dish soap, or a specialty plush toy cleaner). Avoid anything with harsh chemicals or dyes.
  • A spray bottle (optional, for very light misting)
  • A dry towel
  • A soft brush for fluffing

How to do it:

  1. Patch Test, Always! Before applying anything to the stain, test your cleaning solution on an inconspicuous area of the stuffed animal (like an inner seam or under an armpit). Dab a tiny bit of the diluted detergent onto the spot with a clean cloth, wait a few minutes, and blot dry. Check for color changes or damage. If all looks good, proceed.
  2. Blot the Stain: If the stain is fresh, gently blot away any excess liquid or debris with a clean, dry cloth. Do not rub, as this can spread the stain.
  3. Prepare Your Solution: Mix a tiny amount of mild detergent with lukewarm water in your bowl. You want just enough suds to clean, not to create a bubble bath.
  4. Apply and Blot: Dip one of your clean white cloths into the solution, wring it out so it’s just damp, not soaking wet. Gently dab at the stain, working from the outside edges inwards to prevent spreading.
  5. Rinse and Repeat: With your second clean cloth, dampen it with plain water (no soap) and blot the area to “rinse” away the soap residue. You might need to repeat the “apply and blot” and “rinse and blot” steps a few times until the stain lifts and no soap remains.
  6. Dry Thoroughly: Pat the area dry with a clean, dry towel as much as possible. Then, allow the stuffed animal to air dry completely. You can use a hairdryer on a low, cool setting to speed up the process, but keep it moving to avoid overheating any one spot. Make sure the filling is dry all the way through to prevent mildew.
  7. Fluff and Brush: Once completely dry, use a soft brush to gently fluff up the fur, restoring its soft texture.

Method 3: “Time for a Bath!” – Hand Washing with Love

When spot cleaning isn’t enough, but machine washing is too risky, hand washing is your gentle, yet effective, next step. This is ideal for older toys, those with delicate features, or items that contain internal elements you want to protect from excessive agitation.

What you’ll need:

  • A clean sink or basin
  • Mild, dye-free, hypoallergenic detergent (baby shampoo or wool wash is fantastic)
  • Several clean towels
  • A mesh laundry bag (optional, for extra protection during the squeeze-dry)
  • A soft brush

How to do it:

  1. Prepare the Bath: Fill your clean sink or basin with cool or lukewarm water. Add a small amount of your chosen mild detergent – just enough to create a few suds. Remember, less is more here.
  2. Submerge Gently: Carefully submerge the stuffed animal into the soapy water. Gently squeeze and agitate it to allow the water and soap to penetrate the fabric and filling. Focus on any heavily soiled areas, but avoid vigorous scrubbing or twisting, which can damage seams and stuffing.
  3. Soak (Optional): For very dirty items, you can let it soak for 15-30 minutes, but keep an eye on it. Some older dyes might bleed if soaked too long.
  4. Rinse Thoroughly: Drain the soapy water. Refill the sink with clean, cool water and gently squeeze and rinse the stuffed animal until all traces of soap are gone. This is a crucial step; any leftover soap can attract new dirt and leave a residue. You might need to repeat this rinsing process several times with fresh water.
  5. Gently Squeeze Out Excess Water: This is where you need to be really careful. Do not wring or twist the stuffed animal, as this can distort its shape and damage the stuffing. Instead, gently press and squeeze out as much water as you can. You can roll it in a clean, dry towel and press down firmly to absorb more moisture. Repeat with fresh towels until you’ve removed as much water as possible.

Method 4: “Into the Whirlpool!” – Machine Washing

For durable stuffed animals made entirely of synthetic materials with no delicate embellishments, electronics, or non-washable fillings, the washing machine can be a real lifesaver. This is often the easiest option, but it comes with strict caveats.

When it’s appropriate:

  • The care label explicitly says “machine washable.”
  • The stuffed animal is made from sturdy synthetic materials (polyester plush, fleece).
  • It has no delicate glued-on parts, plastic eyes (unless very secure), or internal electronics.
  • It’s filled with polyester fiberfill, not foam chunks or pellets that could escape.

What you’ll need:

  • A mesh laundry bag or a pillowcase with a tie
  • Mild, dye-free, hypoallergenic detergent
  • Several clean towels for initial drying
  • Wool dryer balls (optional, for fluffing during drying)

How to do it:

  1. Pre-Treat Stains: If there are any stubborn stains, pre-treat them using the spot cleaning method (Method 2) before putting the stuffed animal in the machine.
  2. Protect Your Pal: Place the stuffed animal inside a mesh laundry bag. If you don’t have one, a pillowcase works just as well – just tie it securely at the top. This protects the toy from snagging, keeps small parts from breaking off, and prevents excessive tumbling. I can’t stress this enough; this step is a no-brainer for preserving your plush.
  3. Load the Washer: For extra cushioning and to help balance the load, you can add a couple of clean towels to the washing machine along with the bagged stuffed animal.
  4. Choose Your Settings:
    • Water Temperature: Always use cold water. Hot water can cause shrinking, color bleeding, and damage to delicate materials or glues.
    • Cycle: Select the most gentle cycle available – “delicate,” “hand wash,” or “gentle cycle.”
    • Detergent: Use a very small amount of mild, dye-free, liquid detergent. Powder detergents can sometimes leave residue.
  5. Wash and Inspect: Once the cycle is complete, remove the stuffed animal from the bag. Check for any damage. Sometimes, a second, short rinse cycle with no detergent can help ensure all soap is gone, particularly for larger items.

Method 5: “The Cold Shoulder” – Freezer Method

This isn’t a cleaning method in the traditional sense, but it’s a fantastic trick for killing dust mites and freshening up stuffed animals that can’t be washed at all, or those that just need a little odor refresh.

What you’ll need:

  • A large freezer-safe plastic bag (like a Ziploc bag)

How to do it:

  1. Bag It Up: Place the dry stuffed animal inside the plastic bag. Ensure it’s completely dry, as any moisture can freeze and damage the fabric.
  2. Freeze: Place the sealed bag in the freezer for at least 24 hours. The extreme cold will kill most dust mites and can help neutralize some odors.
  3. Thaw and Dust: Remove the stuffed animal from the freezer and let it thaw completely at room temperature. Once thawed, give it a good shake and a light brushing to remove any lingering dust mite debris.

This method is great for older, very fragile, or musical stuffed animals where water is simply not an option. It won’t remove dirt or stains, but it will make them much more hygienic!

Drying Your Plush Pal: The Forgotten, Yet Crucial Step

Drying is just as important as washing, if not more so! Improper drying can lead to mildew, a funky smell, and even damage to the toy’s shape. This is a step where patience truly pays off.

Air Drying (The Best Method)

For almost all stuffed animals, air drying is the safest and most recommended method. It’s gentle and avoids the risks associated with heat.

  • Squeeze and Blot: After washing, gently squeeze out as much water as possible. Roll the stuffed animal in several clean, dry towels and press firmly to absorb more moisture. Repeat with fresh towels if necessary.
  • Reshape: Gently reshape the stuffed animal to its original form.
  • Hang or Lay Flat: Place the stuffed animal on a clean, dry towel, on a drying rack, or hang it by its ears or a sturdy limb (if it won’t stretch the fabric) in a well-ventilated area. Avoid direct sunlight, which can fade colors.
  • Rotate and Fluff: Turn the stuffed animal frequently to ensure all sides dry evenly. Every few hours, gently fluff and massage the stuffing to prevent clumping and speed up drying. This is especially important for larger toys.
  • Patience is Key: Depending on its size and stuffing, air drying can take anywhere from a few hours to a couple of days. Ensure it’s completely dry, all the way to the core, before returning it to play. A slight dampness can quickly lead to mildew.

Tumble Drying (Use with Extreme Caution!)

Tumble drying can be used for *very specific* stuffed animals, primarily those that are machine washable and filled with synthetic fiberfill. However, it comes with risks.

  • Low Heat or No Heat Setting: If you must tumble dry, use the “air fluff” or “no heat” setting. If your dryer doesn’t have this, use the absolute lowest heat setting possible. High heat can melt synthetic fur, damage glued parts, or cause shrinking.
  • Add Dryer Balls: Toss in a few clean tennis balls or wool dryer balls. These will help fluff up the stuffing and speed up drying by creating air circulation.
  • Check Frequently: Remove the stuffed animal frequently to check its progress and fluff it by hand. This prevents hot spots and ensures even drying.
  • Finish with Air Dry: Even if tumble drying, it’s often a good idea to finish with a few hours of air drying to ensure every last bit of moisture is gone.

Special Considerations for “Tough Cookies”

Some stuffed animals present unique challenges. These are the ones that make you pause and really think before diving in.

Vintage or Antique Stuffed Animals

These are the true “tough cookies” of the plush world. An antique teddy bear isn’t just a toy; it’s a piece of history. They often feature delicate materials like mohair or felt, fragile stitching, and may contain non-washable stuffings. Water, especially harsh cleaning chemicals, can cause irreparable damage, including shrinkage, dye bleeding, and fabric deterioration. For these precious items, I strongly recommend seeking out a professional textile conservator or a specialist in antique toy restoration. It’s an investment, but one that preserves history and sentiment.

Musical or Battery-Operated Toys

Any stuffed animal with internal electronics, sound boxes, or battery packs is a big NO for water immersion. Getting these components wet will almost certainly ruin them. For these, your go-to methods are strictly surface cleaning (Method 1) and spot cleaning (Method 2). If you absolutely must deep clean, you’ll need to carefully open a seam, remove the electronic module, clean the fabric, and then carefully reinsert and stitch it back up once everything is dry. This is a job for someone comfortable with basic sewing and a keen eye for detail.

Stuffed Animals with Elaborate Outfits/Embellishments

If your plush pal is sporting a fancy dress, a tiny hat, or has lots of delicate ribbons, sequins, or beading, consider detaching any removable clothing or accessories before washing. This allows you to clean the outfit separately, often by hand, and protects the main toy from snagging. For non-removable embellishments, you’ll want to stick to hand washing or spot cleaning, making sure to protect those areas as much as possible, perhaps even wrapping them in a small piece of mesh or plastic film if you’re really worried.

Stains You Can’t Beat

Sometimes, despite your best efforts, a stain just won’t budge. Ink, old oil, or certain chemical stains can be notoriously difficult to remove from fabric, especially plush. In these cases, you have a few options: accept it as part of the toy’s character (a “battle scar”), consider creative covering options (like a cute patch or a new accessory), or, for truly valuable or cherished items, consult a professional cleaner who specializes in stain removal for textiles. Don’t be tempted to use harsh chemical stain removers not designed for plush; they can strip color or damage fibers.

Maintaining the Freshness: Keeping Your Stuffed Animals Clean Longer

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, right? This old adage certainly applies to keeping your stuffed animals looking (and smelling) their best. A little routine maintenance can drastically cut down on the need for major cleaning operations.

  • Regular Dusting and Vacuuming: Just like your carpets and furniture, stuffed animals collect dust. Incorporate a quick vacuum with a brush attachment or a gentle wipe-down into your regular cleaning routine, especially for those displayed on shelves.
  • Keep Them Away from High-Traffic Zones: If possible, keep favorite stuffed animals out of areas prone to spills, dirt, or heavy foot traffic. Designate a special “cuddle zone” that’s clean and safe.
  • Protective Storage: For stuffed animals not actively being played with or those with sentimental value, consider storing them in clear, breathable garment bags, dust-proof display cases, or plastic bins. Add a few cedar blocks or sachets of dried lavender (away from direct contact with the toy) to help repel pests and keep them smelling fresh.
  • Teach Kids Good Hygiene: Encourage children to wash their hands before playing with their favorite plush toys, especially after eating or outdoor play. It’s a simple habit that makes a huge difference.
  • Quick Response to Spills: Accidents happen! When a spill occurs, address it immediately with spot cleaning (Method 2). The faster you tackle a fresh stain, the better your chances of complete removal.

When to Call in the Pros: Professional Stuffed Animal Cleaning

There are times when a stuffed animal’s condition, material, or sentimental value warrants professional intervention. I’ve certainly considered it for certain items in my own collection that were too precious to risk at home.

Professional cleaners, especially those specializing in textile restoration or dry cleaning, have access to specialized equipment, solvents, and techniques that aren’t available to the average homeowner. They can often handle delicate materials, intricate designs, and stubborn stains with a level of care that minimizes risk.

When it’s worth the investment:

  • Vintage or Antique Toys: As mentioned, these are often irreplaceable.
  • Very Large Stuffed Animals: Too big for your home washing machine and difficult to hand wash effectively.
  • Heavily Stained or Extremely Grimy Items: When home methods haven’t worked, or the grime is truly overwhelming.
  • Delicate Materials: Silk, velvet, or wool plush can be easily damaged.
  • High Sentimental or Monetary Value: If the risk of damage is too great.
  • Allergies: A professional deep clean can sometimes remove allergens more thoroughly than home methods.

When seeking a professional, look for reputable dry cleaners or restoration services in your area. Ask about their experience with stuffed animals or delicate textiles. Don’t be shy about inquiring about their methods and getting an estimate before committing. It’s truly a specialized service, and a good professional will treat your beloved toy with the respect it deserves.

A Personal Take on the Stuffed Animal Journey

Cleaning a dirty stuffed animal is more than just a chore; it’s an act of love. I’ve watched my daughter’s face light up when Sparklehoof, once sticky and sad, emerged from her “spa day” looking nearly as good as new. The sheer joy, the immediate hug she gave that unicorn, reminded me why we go through all this effort.

These aren’t just inanimate objects; they’re vessels of comfort, imagination, and cherished memories. They soak up tears, witness secrets, and become integral parts of our children’s (and sometimes our own) lives. Giving them a thorough cleaning is a way of honoring that bond, extending their life, and ensuring they remain a safe and hygienic part of the family. It’s a small task, perhaps, but one filled with genuine significance, echoing the care we give to everything that truly matters.

Frequently Asked Questions

Can all stuffed animals be machine washed?

Absolutely not! This is a common misconception that can lead to heartbreak. While many modern, durable polyester stuffed animals can withstand a gentle machine wash, a significant number cannot.

You absolutely must check the care label first. If it says “surface wash only,” has a crossed-out washing machine symbol, or indicates hand wash, then you should avoid machine washing. Furthermore, any stuffed animal with internal electronics (like a music box or battery pack), glued-on embellishments (which can detach or melt), very delicate fabrics (like silk, wool, or mohair), or fillings that aren’t polyester fiberfill (such as foam chunks, organic pellets, or even some plastic beads) should *never* go into a washing machine. The agitation and water immersion can damage the internal mechanisms, cause delicate parts to break off, lead to shrinking or color bleeding, or result in the disintegration of certain fillings, creating a real mess and potentially ruining the toy.

How do I clean a stuffed animal that smells?

Odor removal is a crucial part of cleaning, and there are a few effective strategies depending on the severity and cause of the smell.

For mild odors or a general stale smell, the “Freezer Method” (Method 5) can be surprisingly effective at neutralizing some odors by killing odor-causing bacteria and dust mites. Another great trick is to place the stuffed animal in a large plastic bag with a generous amount of baking soda. Seal the bag and shake it gently to distribute the baking soda over the toy, then let it sit for a few hours or even overnight. The baking soda acts as a natural deodorizer, absorbing unwanted smells. Afterwards, remove the toy and thoroughly vacuum or brush off all the baking soda. For more persistent odors, especially those caused by spills or significant grime, a full hand wash (Method 3) or machine wash (Method 4, if applicable) with a mild, unscented detergent is usually necessary to physically remove the source of the smell.

What’s the best way to dry a stuffed animal to prevent mold?

Preventing mold and mildew during drying is paramount, as dampness can quickly lead to a musty smell and potential health hazards. The absolute best method is thorough air drying.

After washing, the first step is to remove as much excess water as humanly possible by gently squeezing and blotting the stuffed animal with multiple clean, dry towels. Never wring or twist. Then, reshape the toy to its original form and place it on a clean, dry surface, a drying rack, or hang it in a well-ventilated area. Crucially, avoid direct sunlight which can fade colors, but ensure there’s good airflow around all sides. Rotate and gently fluff the stuffed animal frequently (every few hours) to help air circulate through the stuffing and prevent clumping. For larger toys, you might even consider setting up a fan nearby to aid circulation. If you opt for tumble drying (only for machine-washable toys and on a very low or no-heat setting), always add dryer balls to help fluff and separate the stuffing, and finish with air drying to ensure every bit of moisture is gone. The key is patience; ensure the stuffed animal is completely, thoroughly dry all the way to its core before it’s put away or returned to play.

My stuffed animal has a glue stain – what should I do?

Glue stains can be particularly tricky because the type of glue dictates the removal method, and harsh solvents can damage the plush fabric or backing. The first step is to identify the type of glue if possible (e.g., craft glue, super glue, hot glue).

For craft glues (like Elmer’s), a bit of warm water and gentle blotting with a clean cloth might soften and lift it. For hot glue, once it’s completely dry, you might be able to gently pick or peel off larger pieces. Sometimes, carefully applying a very small amount of rubbing alcohol to a clean cloth and dabbing at the stain can help dissolve the glue, but you *must* patch test in an inconspicuous area first to ensure it doesn’t discolor or damage the fabric. Super glue is the toughest; acetone (nail polish remover) can dissolve it, but acetone is extremely harsh and will almost certainly damage synthetic plush or melt plastic parts, so it’s generally not recommended for home use on stuffed animals. In most cases, if the glue stain is significant or on a prominent area, or if you’re unsure about the glue type, your safest bet is to consult with a professional textile cleaner who has specialized knowledge in dealing with these kinds of difficult stains without causing further damage to the beloved toy.

How often should I clean my child’s favorite stuffed animal?

The frequency of cleaning a child’s favorite stuffed animal really depends on a few key factors: how often it’s played with, where it goes, and your child’s health or any specific allergies they might have.

For a daily companion that goes everywhere with your child – to daycare, on car rides, into bed every night – a gentle surface cleaning or vacuuming every week or two is a good idea to remove dust, crumbs, and surface grime. A full hand wash or machine wash might be warranted every month or two, especially if the child is prone to drooling, gets sick frequently, or has allergies that are exacerbated by dust mites. If the stuffed animal is only used occasionally or primarily for display, then a full deep clean every 3-6 months, or as needed for specific stains, would likely suffice. Regular spot cleaning for minor spills and using the freezer method for odor control or dust mite reduction can also extend the time between full washes. Always remember, the more active and “loved” the toy, the more often it will need a refresh!

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